Ti hogyan használjátok a Hoʻoponopono-t?

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Nem találtam itt ilyen témát, elnézést ha már van.
Kíváncsi lennék, hogy akik alkalmazzák a Hoʻoponopono-t, hogyan csináljátok, mik a tapasztalataitok?
Nem a neten fellelhető "hivatalos" leírásra vagyok kíváncsi, hanem arra, hogy Ti mit tapasztaltatok, hogyan alkalmazzátok, miben segített, mennyi idő után, stb...?
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A szorongások délelőttje volt ez a mai. Lelki mélypont.

Nem Hoʻoponoponoztam, hanem az angyalomnak nyafogtam eképpen: nem vagyok jól!
Aztán próbáltam kapaszkodókat keresni, pozitív megerősítéseket:

"Talán a mélypontok nélkül a csúcsok sem tudnak olyan magasra nőni".
"Mélyponton lenni jó dolog, mert onnan csak felfelé visz az út!"

De leginkább az segített, hogy secret arcát bámultam.

Egyébként hiszek a Hoʻoponopono-ban!

Szeretlek,
Kérlek, bocsáss meg,
Sajnálom,
Köszönöm....



ho'o

Bekesseg nektek!

- sajnálom,
- bocsass meg,
- köszönöm,
- szeretlek.

A szituaciotol fuggoen, ahogy az erzet sugallja, csereld fel a szavak sorrendjet. Azzal kezd, amelyiket szuksegesnek erzed........

Szep napot!



Szívesen. Nem láttam még

Szívesen. Nem láttam még magyar feliratosat sajnos, mindet angolul láttam/olvastam.



Elnézést, rossz gombot

Elnézést, rossz gombot nyomtam meg, nem Neked szólt Azt hittem, csak egy sima hozzászólás lesz, nem pedig válasz :-)



Dr. Hew Len interjúk

Neked is köszönöm, Kedves Napsüti :)

Dr. Hew Len interjúkat sokan említik. Vajon nincsenek meg valahol magyarral feliratozva? Jó lenne...



Kedves Napsüti

nem értem, miért írtad ezt nekem...



Még csak annyi, hogy én is

Még csak annyi, hogy én is tapasztaltam olyasmit, hogy jobban összezavarodtak a dolgok körülöttem, amikor mondogattam. De nem hagytam abba, és megjavultak :-) Szóval szerintem nem lehet azt mondani, hogy nem működik, mert még ha úgy is tűnik, lehet, hogy akkor pont annak kell megtörténnie az fejlődéséhez, vagy utólag derül ki, hogy miért volt jó, hogy pont úgy történt meg.
Én azt is szoktam alkalmazni, hogy amikor beszélgetek valakivel, mondogatom a "szeretlek" szót magamban és sokkal nyugisabb és normálisabb lesz a kapcsolat.

(Egyébként meg a könyv is "véletlenek" sorozatának köszönhetően jelent meg; a neten találtam rá véletlenül a módszerre, véletlenül ráakadtam a fordítóra, aki pár fejezetet feltett a netre, véletlenül megemlítettem a kiadónak, akit ismerek, hogy nem lenne-e kedve kiadni és volt. :-))



Én is sokszor mondogatom,

Én is sokszor mondogatom, szinte mantra-szerűen, a bennem található érzésekre, gondolatokra vonatkozóan, amit egy szituáció kivált. Például a férjemnek konfliktusa volt egy kollegájával, és eléggé felzaklatott a dolog. Mivel közvetlenül nem velem történt, csak emlékek jöhettek elő, és hozhatták magukkal az érzelmi "hozadékukat", így azokat tisztítottam.
Amikor valami súlyos dolog történik (pl apukám betegsége), akkor többször elmondom magamban az egész imát, (Ha én, családom, rokonaim, őseim bármit is tettek cselekedeteikben, gondolataikban, amivel Téged, családodat, rokonaidat vagy őseidet megbántottak a kezdetektől fogva, kérlek bocsáss meg érte, nagyon sajnálom. Kérem, hogy ez emlékek semlegesítődjenek és tiszta fénnyel töltődjenek fel. Köszönöm. Szeretlek) - vagy ilyesmi.
Nagyon sok interjút meghallgattam Dr Hew Lennel, és írást olvastam, én ezek alapján alkalmazom, és persze ahogy érzem. Azt mindenesetre megfigyeltem, hogy amikor elkezdem mondogatni, akkor elkezdek megnyugodni.
Valóban nem kell tudni (és nem is lehet), hogy mi történik, csak bízni az Isteniben :-), és hogy úgyis az történik, aminek történnie kell.

Érdekes tapasztalat volt, amikor a belső gyermekkel felvettem a kapcsolatot. Sok gyerekkori élmény jött elő bennem a következő időszakban.

Mariann, nincs hülye kérdés :-) Szerintem mindenki úgy alkalmazza, ahogy kitapasztalta. Nem kell feltétlenül feltenni egy ilyen kérdést, ha nem akarod, de felteheted, hogy úgy gondolod. A lényeg a folyamatos tisztogatás. A "mellékteméke" a mantrázásnak, hogy addig nincs az ember elmerülve a gondolataiban :-), ami pedig hozzájárul ahhoz, hogy a jelenben legyen.



...

De jó, hogy nyitottad, ezt a topikot!
Mindenki a könyvről, beszél, meg hogy mantrázik ezerrel, és bejött neki...
Én meg a könyv címét, meg szerzőit nem tudtam. Köszi az infót!
Bővebben az esettanulmányok.hu-s fórumban van rengeteg hozzászólás, és a sikerek között is van frissen olyan ami összemantrázott! :D

http://www.esettanulmanyok.hu/?page=message&topic=866&forumid=1



fura mellékhatás

Kedves gycsv! Köszönöm! :)
Én is mondogatom, eddig csak pár napja...
Közben elolvastam a könyvet is, még emésztem az olvasottakat :)

Viszont azt az érdekes mellékhatást vettem észre, hogy ha nem csak úgy mondogatom bele a világba, mondjuk TV nézés közben vagy mosogatás közben, hanem pl. relaxálok, vagy aludni készülök, és koncentrálok valamire és közben mondogatom, akkor a szívem konkrétan ki akar ugrani a helyéről... Elég fura.
Tegnap éjjel abba is kellett hagynom, mert így nem lehet elaludni...



Folyamatosan mondom....

Eddig kisebb dolgoknál használtam és működött. Most elég nagy magánéleti problémát szeretnék vele megoldani. Így egész éjjel mivel nem tudtam aludni mondogattam.
Szeretlek, Kérlek Bocsáss meg, Sajnálom, Köszönöm....
Tudom, hogy működni fog csak kitartóan kell mondogatnom. Még munkába menet is ezt mondogattam útközben. Hiszek benne és érzem megtisztul tőle a lelkem. Nem sokára eljön az az idő mikor arról tudok beszámolni, hogy megcsináltam….
Tudom érzem és hiszem, de nagyon!
Szeretlek, Kérlek Bocsáss meg, Sajnálom, Köszönöm....



Jó hallani. Illetve olvasni :)

Kedves gycsv! Jó hallani. Illetve olvasni :)
És Te hogy csinálod? Vagy nem tudom... Valami történet? Elmélet? Gyakorlat?
Minden érdekel! :)

Én épp a könyvet olvasom és próbálom felfogni ezt az egészet.
Még nem nagyon sikerült felfonom... Kint, bent, én, mások, Isteni.... Jájj :)



Működik

Nem olyan régen alkalmazom, de határozottan mondhatom, hogy működik.
Még csak azt kellene megtanulnom, ha bajban vagyok eszembe jusson használni a Hooponopono-t :-)



Értem

Értem. Vagy legalábbis kapisgálom... :) Köszönöm! :)



nem hülyeség :)

Igen, azt hiszem arra a könyvre gondolok, bár nem láttam, csak a neten jött le, Joe Vitale írta.

Igen úgy mondogatom, amíg érzem, meg amíg valami közbe nem jön. Mivel mondogatni akármikor lehet, és a helyzetek, az emberek is akármikor jöhetnek, ez általában nem olyankor van, mikor az ember egyedül van otthon. Valami adódik, mondogatom, aztán csörög a telefon, vagy megérkezem, vagy megszólítanak, szóval megy az élet. Ha megint előjön, vagy megint eszembe jut, akkor megint.

Az nem baj, hogy nem tudjuk, mi az, amit tisztítunk, mert ez az egész folyamat se tudatos. Amikor kellemetlen dolgokat vonzunk az életünkbe, annak a mechanizmusát se "tudjuk", mégis milyen jól csináljuk :) Megcímzed a borítékot, és feladod a postán, nem kell ismerned a helyet, ahova küldöd, a kézbesítés nem a mi dolgunk.



köszönöm

Kedves Mariann!
Köszönöm a válaszod.
Nem mondom, hogy értem... de majdcsak megértem :)
Könyv. Joe Vitale és Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len könyvére gondolsz?

Az elkezded mondogatni alatt mit értesz? Hányszor, vagy mennyi ideig? Vagy érzésre megy, egyszer csak érzed, hogy elég? :)

Ha most gondolok egy problémámra és felteszem az általad írt "mi az, ami belőlem olyan rezgéseket vált ki, ami ezt a helyzetet eredményezte?" kérdést, majd elkezdem tisztítani, halvány gőzöm nem lesz, hogy mi az amit tisztítok, mert nem tudom a kérdésemre a választ. Ez nem baj?!

Bocsánat, ha hülyeségeket kérdezek! :)



Gyorsan

Nem tudom, melyik leírást olvastad. Amikor évekkel ezelőtt csak a cikket olvastam, és utána elkezdtem mondogatni, semmit nem tapasztaltam. Úgyhogy nem is foglalkoztam vele. Aztán valahogy felkerült a netre a könyv első 13 fejezete, akkor sok mindent jobban megértettem, és amikor elkezdtem használni, akkor nagyon gyors és látványos eredményeket hozott.
Amikor olyasmit élek meg az életemben, ami nem tetszik (helyzet, ember, esemény), akkor első lépésként azonosítom a felelősségemet: "mi az, ami belőlem olyan rezgéseket vált ki, ami ezt a helyzetet eredményezte?" Tudom, hogy ezzel lokalizáltam is a helyet ott bent valahol. Ez lehet az agyamban, de lehet, hogy valamelyik sejtem DNS-e őrzi, vagy valahol elakadás van az energiaáramlásban bennem.
Utána azt mondom magamban, hogy "Na ezt a részt tisztítom most". Ezzel nagyon célzottan tudom tisztítani a probléma forrását (!!!). És akkor kezdem el mondogatni: "bocsáss meg, szeretlek, sajnálom, köszönöm". Nagyon gyorsan működik. Pár nap.

Egy példát írok csak: közölte a főnököm, hogy bizonyos ok miatt nem kapok fizetést. Nagyon féltem, mert nem engedhetem meg magamnak. Tisztítottam rá Ho'oponopono-val, közben nagyon kellett sírni, és nagyon fájt a szívcsakrám. Tudom, hogy hülyén hangzik, de így volt. De csak mondtam és mondtam. Aztán két nap múlva bementem, és a főnök mondta, hogy ő nem érti, de megkapom a teljes fizetést. Az ok nem szűnt meg!! Nem mertem elhinni, de egy hét múlva, mikor a fizetéseket utalták, tényleg ott volt a pénz.

Sok tapasztalatom van. És az is egy tapasztalat, hogy utána, fellelkesülve az eredményen, mindenre, de mindenre tisztítani kezdtem. De az nem volt jó, összezavartam vele a dolgokat. Úgy döntöttem, hogy ezentúl kiválasztok egy, max 2 területét az életemnek, és egyszerre azokat tisztítom Ho'oponopono-val, amik ehhez kapcsolódnak.



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